From 1985: Warnings from Carl Sagan and Al Gore (Take Two)

Climate deniers will have a hard time explaining these to their grandchildren, the kids who are now woke to the disasters they’ve been served by blindness and greed.

Astounding find by climatestate.

Source: Climate Denial Crock of the Week

I don’t usually repost content; I think it’s much better to simply offer links (though I’m aware they’re rarely followed). But exceptional times call for exceptional measures.

The story so far: I recently stumbled upon an earlier post of mine from 2018, a standard reblog from Peter Sinclair’s ‘climate crocks’ site. The post was just a video that was attended solely by Peter’s comment, above. In the comment thread on that post, Climate State (@climatestate) said of the video:

Thanks Peter for sharing, took me two days to compile this gem. Notice also that Manabe mentions briefly sea ice decline.

Comment by ‘Climate State’ on Peter’s post

Unfortunately, the YouTube video in the original post — and so on my reblog too — has gone walkies. Given that this was a ‘gem’ that had taken ‘two days to compile’, I wanted to revisit it — and, of course, make it available to others again. So I got in touch with Climate State on Vimeo, who kindly pointed me to another copy. However, due to a WordPress bug that (currently, at least) prevents embedding in reblog posts, I’m posting it here, instead.

With a little luck, this copy of the video may enjoy better longevity. Whether homo fatuus brutus will enjoy the same has yet to be revealed….


About peNdantry

Phlyarologist (part-time) and pendant. Campaigner for action against anthropogenic global warming (AGW) and injustice in all its forms. Humanist, atheist, notoftenpist. Wannabe poet, writer and astronaut.
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15 Responses to From 1985: Warnings from Carl Sagan and Al Gore (Take Two)

  1. Hariod Brawn says:

    Will watch later. Thanks!


  2. Anita Bowden says:

    A very informative video, Pendantry (and, of course, very maddening, now, since so little has been done to address what we knew was coming)! Thanks so much for finding a way to share the video!!

    Liked by 1 person

  3. masercot says:

    The people who pretend it isn’t happening will be the first to lie to their grandchildren.

    Liked by 2 people

    • pendantry says:

      Good point, well made. Having deluded themselves for so long, they’ll probably believe they’re not lying, too.

      Liked by 1 person

    • daryan12 says:

      The other day beleaguered health secretary Hancock resigned. The following day Boris tried to claim he fired him, even thought he was backing him the day before he resigned. So, given that this lot can deny something that happened not 48 hrs earlier, ya I think its reasonable to assume they’ll lie about it after it happens.

      In fact, you’ve got it wrong, the republicans always hated big oil, it was Al Gore and Sagan who denied climate change, don’t you remember? I’m sure that’s the line Fox news will take.

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  4. revruss1220 says:

    It is absolutely mind-boggling that with such clear-eyed analysis and empirical urgency from those two that ANYONE would continue to deny climate change. And yet, here we are, 30+ years later with climate denial still alive and well and prospering. Clearly reason is NOT enough to win the day.

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    • pendantry says:

      Hence my campaign to get our species renamed from ‘homo sapiens sapiens’ to ‘homo fatuus brutus’. Only once we recognise that we’re not as smart as we like to think we are can we even begin to address the problem.


  5. Catxman says:

    The earth is already cooked. Temperature rises are baked into the cake, so to speak. With the passage of time, we can expect to see rises of 1.5C to 3C degrees over the next generation, with more increases to come after that. It’s the AFTER THAT that’s negotiable to improvement, not the 1.5-3 part.

    — Catxman

    Liked by 1 person

    • pendantry says:

      Welcome to Wibble, Catxman. Absolutely, you’re not wrong. Those In Power (the ‘politicians’ we ‘elect’) don’t want us to focus on the future, because the future is a place beyond their control. And so, instead of being honest with us, they give us platitudes (if not outright denial). While claiming to be cognizant of the science, they ignore it when it suits them to do so. Their disingenuousness sickens me to the core.


  6. Gray Dawster says:

    Unfortunately the truth always hurts. In a world that cries out for change, necessary changes that will directly benefit all that live on planet earth, why is it then that all governmental bodies around the globe continue to look the other way when these cataclysmic, pressing and most urgent, yes those out of mind, out of sight apocalyptic disasters that are becoming increasingly inevitable? If anyone knows the answer to this obvious easy to spot dilemma, you know, the geniuses that live amongst us, those that are on the bandwagon of disaster, it will make very interesting reading.

    A great posting Pendantry.

    Liked by 1 person

    • pendantry says:

      The only response I’m able to come up with to your challenge is the same one I’ve believed for years: the majority of those who put themselves up for election aren’t really interested in doing the right thing; they’re only interested in what’s in it for themselves.

      Douglas Adams was absolutely right when he wrote:

      Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

      Thanks for the encouraging words, Andro!

      Liked by 1 person

  7. Gray Dawster says:

    I agree, the fatter the pay cheque for these cushy number jobs, the less anyone actually does to make things better. It is a pessimistic view but unfortunately it seems valid, in most cases anyway.


    Liked by 1 person

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